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Saturday, March 2, 2024

Is God’s Presence in Hell?

 

Doctrine

The question of whether God is in hell must begin doctrine that God is everywhere.  He is omnipresent. The doctrine of God’s omnipresence states that God is everywhere, at once and absolutely.  There are no parts of Him in one place and part in another.  One must also hold to the doctrine of Divine Simplicity This is the idea that God does not exist in parts but is one unified entity.  

Revelation 14:10

Jesus taught that God’s ultimate punishment is banishment from the Lord's presence (see Matthew 7:23; 8:12; 22:13; 25:30; and Luke 13:27).  However, as we read Revelation 14:10 (ESV), speaking of those who worship the beast: “he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.”  That passage tends to reveal that Christ and the angels are present in Hell with the damned.  Dr. Beale writes, “That the torment takes place not only ‘before the Lamb’ but also the before ‘holy angels’ suggests that the angels are not merely present when the judgment occurs but also take part in the execution of it, though their presence may only be intended to call attention to the Lamb.”[1] The presence of Christ isn’t stated categorically that He is in Hell.  It may be saying that Christ and the angels are observing the very results of their judgment. “In Revelation 14:10, "presence" is a literal translation of the Greek ἐνώπιον, which means "in the presence of, before." This is a spatial word, suggesting proximity and literal, measurable distances.”[2]

2 Thessalonians 1:9

2 Thessalonians 1:9 gives us the clearest of answers.  They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,” (2 Thessalonians 1:9, ESV). Let me unpack this by identifying several important points.

Point 1.

The clause, “away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” leans back to Isaiah 2:10, 19, and 21, where the wicked are called to hide from the “presence of the fear of the Lord and from the glory of His might.[3]  This should cause us to immediately think that the presence of God they are experiencing is His wrath and is manifested by His terror and majestic power.  The redeemed of the Lord do not experience this aspect of God’s presence. “. . . In your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore.” (Psalm 16:11b, ESV)

Point 2.

Another point to be made about this phrase, “away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might” is that this is synonymous parallelism in Greek, meaning that the “presence of the Lord is stated otherwise and similar to, “the glory of His might.” “Since these two prepositional phrases are in synonymous parallelism with each other (see also vv8b and 10), it would be wrong to distinguish their meaning too sharply.”[4]  All that is to say that the punishment meted out on the unrepentant is state away from the presence of God; or stated otherwise, away from the glory of His might. These phrases could be used interchangeably.  I’ll write more of that later.

Point 3.

The most compelling point for me is the word “presence”.  This word in the Greek text is “πρόσωπον prosōpon; from 4314 and ὤψ ōps (an eye, face); the face.”[5] That Biblical notion of being before, or seeking God’s face is an important reality in the Scriptures. The greatest blessing is to have God’s face turned to you, not away from you. This leads me to conclude that God’s presence in Hell is His face is turned away.  He is present with an ever-turned face.  Many years ago, I head the late Dr. R.C. Sproul, Senior, speak on the topic of cursing and blessing[6].  He took his text from the Aaronic blessing of Numbers 6.

The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace.” (Numbers 6:24–26, ESV)

Dr. Sproul noted that cursing someone is the opposite of blessing.  For example, we could read the text as a curse in this way: “The LORD curse you and abandon you; the LORD turn His face and leave you in darkness removing all grace to you; the LORD remove His countenance[7] from you and give you calamity.” 

So, in 2 Thessalonians 1:9 we might see the Apostle saying that the reprobate experience the turned away face of God. That experience includes eternal darkness, devoid of all grace and peace, lacking all approval or acceptability from God.  “And God, who is present everywhere at all times, will be forever present in hell as the judge . . . Whatever the exact nature of this everlasting judgment, it is horrible ultimately for one reason only: God is present.” – Michael Horton[8]  For God to be present with His face turned away would be horror devoid description.  It is what Christ experienced on the Cross in a moment of time but infinite in measure when He cried, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”[9]  The ever-present God was there with face turned away.  That is Hell.

As to the parallel phrase “the glory of His might”, how does it reflect a synonymous idea?   If we turn to Psalm 106:8 (ESV) we get a clue.  There we read, “Yet he saved them for his name’s sake, that he might make known his mighty power.” The salvation of God’s people is accomplished through His “mighty power”, His “glorious might”.  Just as God’s “turned-away-face” reflects His curse, so does His removal of His mighty power in salvation becomes His curse.   

Conclusion

One commentator puts it this way, “According to 2 Thessalonians 1:9, the punishment of unbelievers in hell will consist not only of suffering in the "fires," but also banishment from the presence of the Lord. The word translated "presence" is literally "face." Whereas believers will see the Lord face to face (1 Corinthians 13:12), unbelievers will be driven from the face of the Lord and will never know the joy of being in His presence and the delight of observing the splendor of His power.”[10]

Is God present in Hell?  Yes.  God is present with face turned away and the possibility of salvation removed – forever.  This is unimaginable horror.

 



[1] Beale, G. K. (1999). The book of Revelation: a commentary on the Greek text (p. 760). W.B. Eerdmans; Paternoster Press.

[3] Weima, J. A. D. (2014). Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament: 1–2 Thessalonians (R. W. Yarbrough & R. H. Stein, Eds.; p. 474). Baker Academic.

[4] Weima, J. A. D. (2014). Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament: 1–2 Thessalonians (R. W. Yarbrough & R. H. Stein, Eds.; p. 475). Baker Academic.

[5] Thomas, R. L. (1998). In New American Standard Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek dictionaries : updated edition. Foundation Publications, Inc.

[6] https://www.ligonier.org/learn/series/cross-of-christ/blessing-or-curse

[7] Remove His acceptance of you.

[8] https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/hell-not-separation-god/

[9] The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Mt 27:46). (2016). Crossway Bibles.

[10] https://www.bibleref.com/2-Thessalonians/1/2-Thessalonians-1-9.html

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